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Post  dblshockpwr 1/11/2010, 2:35 pm

And I don't care which party is in charge.....


They are both crooked beyond belief and only exist to serve their globalist agendas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tHk9Q3Fv6g&feature=topvideos


I have no confidence in either party and now live by the message from George Washington to the country.

17 All obstructions to the execution of the Laws, all combinations and associations, under whatever plausible character, with the real design to direct, control, counteract, or awe the regular deliberation and action of the constituted authorities, are destructive of this fundamental principle, and of fatal tendency. They serve to organize faction, to give it an artificial and extraordinary force; to put, in the place of the delegated will of the nation, the will of a party, often a small but artful and enterprising minority of the community; and, according to the alternate triumphs of different parties, to make the public administration the mirror of the ill-concerted and incongruous projects of faction, rather than the organ of consistent and wholesome plans digested by common counsels, and modified by mutual interests.

18 However combinations or associations of the above description may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely, in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people, and to usurp for themselves the reins of government; destroying afterwards the very engines, which have lifted them to unjust dominion.

19 Towards the preservation of your government, and the permanency of your present happy state, it is requisite, not only that you steadily discountenance irregular oppositions to its acknowledged authority, but also that you resist with care the spirit of innovation upon its principles, however specious the pretexts. One method of assault may be to effect, in the forms of the constitution, alterations, which will impair the energy of the system, and thus to undermine what cannot be directly overthrown. In all the changes to which you may be invited, remember that time and habit are at least as necessary to fix the true character of governments, as of other human institutions; that experience is the surest standard, by which to test the real tendency of the existing constitution of a country; that facility in changes, upon the credit of mere hypothesis and opinion, exposes to perpetual change, from the endless variety of hypothesis and opinion; and remember, especially, that, for the efficient management of our common interests, in a country so extensive as ours, a government of as much vigor as is consistent with the perfect security of liberty is indispensable. Liberty itself will find in such a government, with powers properly distributed and adjusted, its surest guardian. It is, indeed, little else than a name, where the government is too feeble to withstand the enterprises of faction, to confine each member of the society within the limits prescribed by the laws, and to maintain all in the secure and tranquil enjoyment of the rights of person and property.

20 I have already intimated to you the danger of parties in the state, with particular reference to the founding of them on geographical discriminations. Let me now take a more comprehensive view, and warn you in the most solemn manner against the baneful effects of the spirit of party, generally.

21 This spirit, unfortunately, is inseparable from our nature, having its root in the strongest passions of the human mind. It exists under different shapes in all governments, more or less stifled, controlled, or repressed; but, in those of the popular form, it is seen in its greatest rankness, and is truly their worst enemy.

22 The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders and miseries, which result, gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of Public Liberty.

23 Without looking forward to an extremity of this kind, (which nevertheless ought not to be entirely out of sight,) the common and continual mischiefs of the spirit of party are sufficient to make it the interest and duty of a wise people to discourage and restrain it.

(Full text here. http://www.earlyamerica.com/earlyamerica/milestones/farewell/text.html )

This is a document that hardly ever gets any pub these days and in the times we are living that every American worth their salt should read. Both parties only care about 2 things, either keeping or seeking power, the people are just a means to an end now, we are viewed as a minor obstacle to absolute power.
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Post  Administrator 1/12/2010, 5:10 am

Amen.


There's no need for me to repeat what I've been saying for the last 10 years. It's coming to a head. Choose your side and don't look back.

As for me.....it will be an honor. My sister and I have traced our family history back to the year 1210 (on our mom's side).....we're British on our mom's side (along with two relatives, one Swede and one German)....but other than that, everybody is British. On our dad's side, it's all German/Dutch. As of right now, we can only go back 6 generations on our dad's side....information is hard to get. But all 6 generations go back to the same small area of Pennsylvania. Some relatives are still there, in Northampton/Bethlehem (or as they pronounce it, Bet-la-hem).

Anyway, we found some very interesting facts about our family history on our mom's side:
1. We came to North America within 10 years of the Mayflower.
2. We have a direct uncle who served as QuarterMaster to none other than.......General George Washington during the Revolution.
3. We have two relatives who fought in the Civil War (for the Union).


So......do ya think I'll be in the thick of things when the time comes????


Ya think????? ramborampage


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Post  dblshockpwr 1/12/2010, 6:51 am

mighty_colts wrote:Amen.


There's no need for me to repeat what I've been saying for the last 10 years. It's coming to a head. Choose your side and don't look back.

As for me.....it will be an honor. My sister and I have traced our family history back to the year 1210 (on our mom's side).....we're British on our mom's side (along with two relatives, one Swede and one German)....but other than that, everybody is British. On our dad's side, it's all German/Dutch. As of right now, we can only go back 6 generations on our dad's side....information is hard to get. But all 6 generations go back to the same small area of Pennsylvania. Some relatives are still there, in Northampton/Bethlehem (or as they pronounce it, Bet-la-hem).

Anyway, we found some very interesting facts about our family history on our mom's side:
1. We came to North America within 10 years of the Mayflower.
2. We have a direct uncle who served as QuarterMaster to none other than.......General George Washington during the Revolution.
3. We have two relatives who fought in the Civil War (for the Union).


So......do ya think I'll be in the thick of things when the time comes????


Ya think????? ramborampage


My Mothers maiden name was Hancock, and she is a member of The Daughters of the revolution.

But I will not choose either of these corrupt parties to support.
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Post  Magic 1/12/2010, 2:39 pm

Yeah Garth I knew before you said that I wouldn't be shooting at you during the Civil War II

I'm a Yankee ya know ramborampage

My Dads side are from over in GB and landed in N Carolina and the family is still there in a town they name "Cleveland" for some reason.

I don't know any of them back there but I loooked up the name and the place is covered with em.

Hard to trace my Moms side beyond my great-grandmother for some reason.

And I am as far north as you can go without being in Canada lol

So I will just figure the ones I know in Indiana are on our side joker



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