Re: We need 4 political parties

Magic 5/20/2008, 1:30 pm

ColtsKurt wrote:
cravnravn wrote:Please!! Do I sound like a guy in a cult??

YES! You belong to the "pee on the grave of a highly respected NFL owner and Super Bowl host's Dad's grave" cult.
And instead of kool-aid, you drink beer. If you drink bourbon... you'll be fine. Trust me!

I think I might do a write-in vote and sign the names of all the liberals I know.......it will be Bill O'Reilly for President and Glenn Beck as VP

on the house........

dblshockpwr 5/20/2008, 2:07 pm

Magic wrote:When a person writes a long rant and attempts to prove they are correct.....and then end that rant with "I'm voting for Obama because"

It proves you don't know wtf you are even talking about.

You did forget to say "Bush and Cheney own opec" this time though.

now they don't own Opec..... if that was the case the president wouldn't have been over there with his hat in his hand begging for more oil.... lame duck that he is....

dblshockpwr 5/20/2008, 2:11 pm

and Barack Obama is starting to seem very JFK esque in the final rounds of his nomitation....
and as soon as that nomination is acheived McCains poll numbers should drop 10 points right off the bat.

I winder if Barack is the "great man" that ol Nostradamous spoke of that would close out the Great king of the air(OBL)

LOL sorry I found my copy of The Man that saw Tommorow the other day...

dblshockpwr 5/20/2008, 2:13 pm

BlueShoes1 wrote:My two cents, for what it's worth:

As a former union member (I walked the picket line back in 1976 before I got smart and found another job...the union was on strike for 4 months and got a 4% raise...go figure) and as a long term member of "management", I've seen both sides. Kurt and Dbl have presented the pluses and minuses very well.

But, to think that this country can compete in a global economy (and we have no choice in that matter) bearing the burden of high wages and benefits for union workers is foolish. Do you think India or China will ever allow workers to unionize for better conditions? Highly unlikely, so the bottom line is we're competing on an unlevel playing field. Ask those former International Garment Workers Union members, or the auto worker union members, or any of several other union members who lost their jobs because they're companies could not compete in the global market. Think they might have some second thoughts today about the impact their previous union demands had on their demise?

Of course, we'll always have the various public employee and government employee unions and our taxes will continue to rise to support the clerks and teachers they represent. Their demands have gotten out of hand...ANYONE here want talk about how efficient government bureaucracy works or about the quality of public education? The union gives you those results, folks.

Unions had a place one time. They've now gotten out of hand. Die-hard union members want things to go back to they way they were in the old days and, if we can't, it's because of company management or George Bush. No realization of the changing world and how important it will be for this country to adapt to the global market demands or sink. The days when the good old U.S. of A is the driver are dwindling.

Suggest you read "The World is Flat" for some good insight on things.

Rant and rave all you want, it won't change reality.

Oh, and Obama's getting my vote (go figure).

No Blue, they don't want things to be the way they were... they just want a fairs, day for for a fair days pay..... they want to be able to provide for a better life for their childern and send them off to college too.....

and of course everybody wants better dental... pecker

cravnravn 5/21/2008, 4:24 am

8 years ago, when Georgey took office gas was 1.50 a gallon.

dblshockpwr 5/21/2008, 5:54 am

mighty_colts wrote:Unions are like a weird marxist cult. I just talked to a former union guy....and that's exactly what he told me, "Unions are like cults".

I of course told him I agree completely. I want to be independant, like an American should be.

Europe is finally beginning to break the power of unions that has kept their economy in stagnation for decades, especially in Germany. Now business owners can FIRE all that dead weight who don't produce....."git your sorry ass outta here, punk!!!"

Oh, by the way......take a look at the American auto makers. They are all losing money bigtime. They all use unions with all that nasty union overhead. But Toyota is turning consistent quarterly profits.....and they don't use union labor. And they also make the most reliable well-built cars and trucks on this planet. Those Japs are smart. We, on the other hand, build union cars and trucks that are designed to take a dump after 3 or 4 years, forcing the consumer to buy another vehicle or pay exorborant labor costs to the union for repairs. But the consumer says, "Up Yours!! I'm buying Japanese!!"

Mighty, mighty, mighty.... the american auto industry isn't in trouble because of the UAW.... less than 25% of the american auto industry is unionized.... the problem with the american auto industry is that they refused to change with the times until it was almost too late. The big 3 flat-out REFUSED to change over the dies and retool their factories to compete with foreign automobile makers........ Gross mis-management is the reason the big 3 are in trouble now.... BUT that being said Ford's quality has surpassed Toyota's for the first time in years last year.

AND there is also a push to Unionize at Toyota... even thought the media won't report it... as a matter of fact it's a huge push because Toyota treats their employees like crap. I know the Princeton Indiana plant that makes the Tundra is very likely to vote in union representation soon, and so is the factory in Georgetown Kentucky.

Good lord man, the big 3 were giving upper-management mutli-million dollar bonuses for losing money..... Now what kind of business sense is that?

The big 3 refused to change wit the times and refused to make fuel-efficient cars that people actually wanted to buy, that is where there biggest problem lies.

dblshockpwr 5/21/2008, 5:58 am

BlueShoes1 wrote:My two cents, for what it's worth:

As a former union member (I walked the picket line back in 1976 before I got smart and found another job...the union was on strike for 4 months and got a 4% raise...go figure) and as a long term member of "management", I've seen both sides. Kurt and Dbl have presented the pluses and minuses very well.

But, to think that this country can compete in a global economy (and we have no choice in that matter) bearing the burden of high wages and benefits for union workers is foolish. Do you think India or China will ever allow workers to unionize for better conditions? Highly unlikely, so the bottom line is we're competing on an unlevel playing field. Ask those former International Garment Workers Union members, or the auto worker union members, or any of several other union members who lost their jobs because they're companies could not compete in the global market. Think they might have some second thoughts today about the impact their previous union demands had on their demise?

Of course, we'll always have the various public employee and government employee unions and our taxes will continue to rise to support the clerks and teachers they represent. Their demands have gotten out of hand...ANYONE here want talk about how efficient government bureaucracy works or about the quality of public education? The union gives you those results, folks.

Unions had a place one time. They've now gotten out of hand. Die-hard union members want things to go back to they way they were in the old days and, if we can't, it's because of company management or George Bush. No realization of the changing world and how important it will be for this country to adapt to the global market demands or sink. The days when the good old U.S. of A is the driver are dwindling.

Suggest you read "The World is Flat" for some good insight on things.

Rant and rave all you want, it won't change reality.

Oh, and Obama's getting my vote (go figure).

Thats why we need to start treating India and China like they treat us.... good luck trying to get american products into those countries because the tariffs and taxes to import are set-up to make it impossible.

We need to do the exact same thing.

American workers and products CAN compete on a level playing field... unfortunately blue, we don't get to play on one in the global economy.

Administrator 5/30/2008, 9:59 am

Dshock....your boy obama will push for new tax on Americans...one of which will be a global tax on YOU to give more welfare to his fellow Africans abroad.

Blantant marxism on the left.
Blantant globalism on the right.

It will take a revolution and/or a major environmental/political collapse in this Country to clean out all the poison so the backbone of this Nation can begin to rebuild, because I guarantee you that the core population will not allow the Constitution to die. Manifest Destiny still applies to the United States, it always did, it always will. This is a distinctly Christian nation without which Zion could not have returned!! Everything else around the Constitution, the heartbeat of America, will die first. All the riff-raff will perish, I shit you not

We need 4 political parties - Page 2 No_no10

cravnravn 5/31/2008, 1:50 pm

Change of heart from your Democratic Representative, Cravnravn..last Thursday on the Ellen D show, I actually listened to McCain, I think I like this cat..

Unless Hussein picks Hill as his running mate, I'm going to lean towards the old fuck.

Side note, I only watched Ellen because my sisters orginazation was featured in the last segment of the show, Its trully amazing what national recognization can do to a site..Yes she got slammed by the Trolls, but "big brother" took care of them Smile

, but her cause www.islanddog.org recieved 100,000 dollars in donations from every day folks. including 10,000 worth of food from Ellen herself. Im working myself on my UPS contacts to see how we can ship 2 pallets of food over to Puerto Rico with minimal cost.

Administrator 5/31/2008, 10:51 pm

Yep, Cravn......if you're going to vote for one of those two, then McCain is the choice to make. But as for me......the way I see it, if I write-in my vote for somebody like Ron Paul, I don't consider that a "wasted vote", because I'll feel good about my vote.

I'm hearing talk about a "Nationalist Party" being formed. I'll consider that or the Constitution Party, since both of our main parties have been over-thrown....marxism on the left, globalism on the right with the Constitution between them being shredded. Moving over to a nationalist party or the Constitutional party will be aligning yourself with what the Republican and Democrat parties once were. We used to have a lot of national pride.....but a strong nationalist America is greatly feared around the world. So the goal of our enemies is to destroy that pride, culture and identity by breaking it up into little pieces, taking advantage of our own unwillingness to make a stand and fight back.

That's exactly what's happening now.....out-sourcing industry, open borders, un-constitutional financial system, NAFTA, communism/marxism, high taxes, selling our road system to foreign governments who then collect the tolls....the list goes on and on.

The enemies of the Constitution fear nothing more than an Ameircan population that is patriotic with a strong sense of culture and identity, using a Constitutional money system. An American population with those qualities can't be controlled, which makes it greatly feared. So our enemies seek to weaken those qualities to control the great wealth and potential of the USA, keeping the population weak and demoralized.

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