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Post  Magic 10/3/2023, 8:29 pm



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Bears at Commanders -6.5 O/U 44.5 <--thursday
Jaguars at Bills -5.5  O/U 48 <--6:30am PT
Texans at Falcons -2.5  O/U 41
Panthers at Lions  -8.5   O/U 43.5
Titans at Colts -1  O/U  42
Giants at Dolphins -9.5  O/U 49.5
Saints at Patriots -1.5  O/U  39
Ravens at Steelers +4, O/U 40.5
Bengals at Cardinals +4  O/U  42.5
Eagles at Rams +4.5  O/U 48
Jets at Broncos -2.5  O/U 40.5
Chiefs at Vikings +5.5  O/U  52.5
Cowboys at 49ers -3.5   O/U  45


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Packers at Raiders +1.5  O/U  43.5
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Post  odantheman 10/4/2023, 6:58 am

Lions -8.5
Dolphins -9.5

Lions -8.5
Dolphins -9.5
Texans +2.5
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Post  Magic 10/5/2023, 6:05 pm

GLAD  I was late for the thursday pick.......out doing the last mow of the year so I can put the Deere and the Jag back to bed until next year......since we are suppose to get one more day of Sun so I left them out until tomorrow since I always find several other projects to do out there............17 - 3 BEARS so far laughing


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Post  odantheman 10/5/2023, 6:18 pm

odantheman wrote:Lions -8.5
Dolphins -9.5

Lions -8.5
Dolphins -9.5
Texans +2.5


Absolutely insane. I wanted to place this bet in Vegas but the line has moved so much.

Lions are now a +10 and the Dolphins are a +12.5
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Post  Magic 10/5/2023, 9:17 pm

odantheman wrote:
odantheman wrote:Lions -8.5
Dolphins -9.5

Lions -8.5
Dolphins -9.5
Texans +2.5


Absolutely insane. I wanted to place this bet in Vegas but the line has moved so much.

Lions are now a +10 and the Dolphins are a +12.5

Yeah years ago I would post the lines on thursday around noon but some started complaining so I do them on wednesday now and Vegas is famous for messing with the lines BECAUSE of all the bets they were getting......which can actually help make picks here anyway lol  .......and of course it does this even more for the sunday and MNF games.......if we didn't have thursday games I would switch to posting on saturday........just for the current lines.......not that I really care and I am NEVER an early bird so I tend to post the lines just after midnight since that isn't easy the way I do it all in living color king

You can make Vegas bets early of course when the lines are exactly what I post here.
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Post  =SA= 10/6/2023, 10:02 am

BB

BUFF -5.5
Det -8.5

Parlay

NE -1.5
Phil -4
SF -3.5

Okay, I've taken 5 favorites laying a total of 23 points. This can't end well hammerhead


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Post  Magic 10/6/2023, 12:40 pm

=SA= wrote:BB

BUFF -5.5

Now that has to be the first time in 24 years that a player did ONE pick for the sunday games instead of waiting until you decide what your other picks will be lol
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Post  Magic 10/6/2023, 12:54 pm

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Colts -1
And Over 42

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Bills -5.5
Colts -1
And Over 42
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Post  =SA= 10/6/2023, 1:15 pm

Magic wrote:
=SA= wrote:BB

BUFF -5.5

Now that has to be the first time in 24 years that a player did ONE pick for the Sunday games instead of waiting until you decide what your other picks will be lol

That's because we could make out picks on Sunday but not have to get up early in the morning to make an early pick ..
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Post  Magic 10/6/2023, 4:31 pm

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=SA= wrote:BB

BUFF -5.5

Now that has to be the first time in 24 years that a player did ONE pick for the Sunday games instead of waiting until you decide what your other picks will be lol

That's because we could make out picks on Sunday but not have to get up early in the morning to make an early pick ..

The RULE is that EVERY pick must be posted BEFORE the first kickoff on sunday and that includes when they play in Europe at 6 am our time.......has ALWAYS been the Rule here
https://bcforum.editboard.com/t4551-bookie-challenge-rules
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Post  CrystalBalls 10/7/2023, 5:01 am

Magic wrote:
=SA= wrote:
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=SA= wrote:BB

BUFF -5.5

Now that has to be the first time in 24 years that a player did ONE pick for the Sunday games instead of waiting until you decide what your other picks will be lol

That's because we could make out picks on Sunday but not have to get up early in the morning to make an early pick ..

The RULE is that EVERY pick must be posted BEFORE the first kickoff on sunday and that includes when they play in Europe at 6 am our time.......has ALWAYS been the Rule here
https://bcforum.editboard.com/t4551-bookie-challenge-rules

I recommend changing the rule as so many of us (all 8 or 9) will post late and we'll lose players for next year's quarter century contest!  I believe MAGIC can make that rule change just like Trump could do.  Also, I doubt this rule was made after they started these international games.  Plus, it does not say "and that includes when they play in Europe at 6 am our time"
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Post  =SA= 10/7/2023, 5:42 pm

I agree. There were no early games when the rule was Maud. I suggest we just treat the early Subday game as a separate game like Thursdays gMe and allow someone to pick it as a stand alone. Sunday games should be. Onsudered any games that start after noon CST
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Post  Magic 10/7/2023, 9:15 pm

OFF with your heads!!

Well I am the Emperor so that part is true

BUT I also keep records and that Rule book does cover it all and it has come up every few years (sometimes by the same member)

These European games started being played back in October 28, 2007 (btw that was the start of the 2nd season on  THIS website and I also have stuff saved from the website before that and even some old printed pages from the ESPN version before Miguel was impeached for being a jackass)

Wembley Stadium in London, England
The Giants defeated the Dolphins 13–10 in the first regular season NFL game held outside North America.
And now they even play in Germany and this season 2 there and one is my COLTS
And they also have played in Mexico

The NFL has had games in Europe and Mexico every season since 2007 (only 4 seasons played in Mexico)


and here is the exact copy of that Rule
*To summarize:

1) You can post your entire bookie card all at once if you choose.
2) You can post your Best Bets on different days if you choose, each GameDay is separate and individual. You can make a Best Bet on Thursday, your Parlay on Sunday, and your second Best Bet on Monday.
3) You cannot post an incomplete Parlay. If you don't correct it before the Posting Deadline, then your Parlay is void for that week. For example; if you post your Parlay on Sunday and it's incomplete, you must correct it before the Posting Deadline for Sunday, which is of course the kickoff of the first game played that day. If the first game is scheduled for 10am Pacific, then the Posting Deadline is 9:59am Pacific.
ALL Sunday picks must be posted before the first kickoff of that day. <-------
If you are late then your last chance is one Best Bet for the MNF game*

AND "first kickoff on sunday"  means just what it says.......AND I always found it strange that some of you won't do your picks until minutes before that first kickoff since you can post them on saturday and the points spreads never change here so it can't be that.

I have ALWAYS posted mine on friday or saturday EVERY season since it started and won many 2nd place and several 3rd place and back to back Champion here so it must not be needed minutes before that first kickoff on sunday mornings. hellyes
(oh and I also have the record highest scoring total here a few years ago)

Now if we were back to having close to 20 players like the old days THAT would make the big difference here for sure  boohoo
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Post  R&R 10/7/2023, 9:52 pm

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Chiefs -5.5

Dolphins -9.5
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Post  CrystalBalls 10/8/2023, 2:32 am

Magic wrote:OFF with your heads!! I interpret that you're saying the picks must be posted before the start of the 9:30 EST game. If that is true, the rule wasn't observed before, correct me if I'm wrong. Most players may skip the international game because of the early start time. I can't even imagine Vegas betters(including West Coast players), getting up in Vegas to go to the casino before 9am. I disagree with keeping that rule.

Well I am the Emperor so that part is true

BUT I also keep records and that Rule book does cover it all and it has come up every few years (sometimes by the same member)

These European games started being played back in October 28, 2007 (btw that was the start of the 2nd season on  THIS website and I also have stuff saved from the website before that and even some old printed pages from the ESPN version before Miguel was impeached for being a jackass)

Wembley Stadium in London, England
The Giants defeated the Dolphins 13–10 in the first regular season NFL game held outside North America.
And now they even play in Germany and this season 2 there and one is my COLTS
And they also have played in Mexico

The NFL has had games in Europe and Mexico every season since 2007 (only 4 seasons played in Mexico)


and here is the exact copy of that Rule
*To summarize:

1) You can post your entire bookie card all at once if you choose.
2) You can post your Best Bets on different days if you choose, each GameDay is separate and individual. You can make a Best Bet on Thursday, your Parlay on Sunday, and your second Best Bet on Monday.
3) You cannot post an incomplete Parlay. If you don't correct it before the Posting Deadline, then your Parlay is void for that week. For example; if you post your Parlay on Sunday and it's incomplete, you must correct it before the Posting Deadline for Sunday, which is of course the kickoff of the first game played that day. If the first game is scheduled for 10am Pacific, then the Posting Deadline is 9:59am Pacific.
ALL Sunday picks must be posted before the first kickoff of that day. <-------
If you are late then your last chance is one Best Bet for the MNF game*

AND "first kickoff on sunday"  means just what it says.......AND I always found it strange that some of you won't do your picks until minutes before that first kickoff since you can post them on saturday and the points spreads never change here so it can't be that.

I have ALWAYS posted mine on friday or saturday EVERY season since it started and won many 2nd place and several 3rd place and back to back Champion here so it must not be needed minutes before that first kickoff on sunday mornings. hellyes
(oh and I also have the record highest scoring total here a few years ago)

Now if we were back to having close to 20 players like the old days THAT would make the big difference here for sure  boohoo
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Post  Magic 10/8/2023, 4:45 am

CrystalBalls wrote: I interpret that you're saying the picks must be posted before the start of the 9:30 EST game.  If that is true, the rule wasn't observed before, correct me if I'm wrong. Most players may skip the international game because of the early start time.  I can't even imagine Vegas betters(including West Coast players), getting up in Vegas to go to the casino before 9am.  I disagree with keeping that rule.

Cballs you are terrible at quoting lol

Nobody said you have to pick that early game or any other game......you are supposed to decide your BB's and Parlay yourself and just post it BEFORE the first games kickoff.

I have said here many many times that all you have to do is post them on saturday.......and this time I might as well say.....WHY does anyone have to post the picks early sunday morning......there is no advantage to doing that.......and may I quote you from several years ago?
You asked me why the point spreads here were not the same as the ones you read on a saturday night......and my reply was.....it doesn't matter.....your picks here are using the point spreads posted here and since we all go by the same lines it makes no difference

In fact if you really want to you could look at the saturday night lines and compare them to the ones here and use your Vegas skills to see if you can figure out WHY Vegas changed the lines from what they were......and all the injury reports are in by saturday so that can't be the reason either. (and as I said before the reason they change the lines is because of the bets they get and use that to get new bettors to change their minds on the O/U or point spreads which is another Vegas trick to con bettors into handing over more of their cash hellyes

BUT you still have to post them before the first kickoff and well we all are alive and kicking on saturdays and even fridays so we all can do the picks on time.......and I also proved that the rule was here way before everyone joined except Craig and I  in 2007

Hell the rule is so old that a few of those members are watching the games in BC Heaven now including the original member who came up with all the Rules and they were all written out by another old geezer who has been gone for years too.

Oh and I forgot to add that Rule changes are always made before the season starts by a Vote......so once again......that would have to be before the 25th Annual......where in a dream world we will get back up to 20 members again like it used to be not that long ago.

BTW I picked that early game myself on Friday and will take what ever the final score turns out to be
Ok it is 4:45am here so since Seattle sucks and don't show a morning game....... unripebooya
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Post  CrystalBalls 10/8/2023, 5:26 am

[quote="Magic"]
CrystalBalls wrote: I interpret that you're saying the picks must be posted before the start of the 9:30 EST game.  If that is true, the rule wasn't observed before, correct me if I'm wrong. Most players may skip the international game because of the early start time.  I can't even imagine Vegas betters(including West Coast players), getting up in Vegas to go to the casino before 9am.  I disagree with keeping that rule.
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Magic, You are terrible at understanding that the rule has not been followed and no one has had their picks negated. I guess I was asking if NOW the rule is going to be followed, which would mean that everyone has to make their picks before the start of the 9:30est game!

Cballs you are terrible at quoting lol

Nobody said you have to pick that early game or any other game......you are supposed to decide your BB's and Parlay yourself and just post it BEFORE the first games kickoff.

I have said here many many times that all you have to do is post them on saturday.......and this time I might as well say.....WHY does anyone have to post the picks early sunday morning......there is no advantage to doing that.......and may I quote you from several years ago?
You asked me why the point spreads here were not the same as the ones you read on a saturday night......and my reply was.....it doesn't matter.....your picks here are using the point spreads posted here and since we all go by the same lines it makes no difference

In fact if you really want to you could look at the saturday night lines and compare them to the ones here and use your Vegas skills to see if you can figure out WHY Vegas changed the lines from what they were......and all the injury reports are in by saturday so that can't be the reason either. (and as I said before the reason they change the lines is because of the bets they get and use that to get new bettors to change their minds on the O/U or point spreads which is another Vegas trick to con bettors into handing over more of their cash hellyes

BUT you still have to post them before the first kickoff and well we all are alive and kicking on saturdays and even fridays so we all can do the picks on time.......and I also proved that the rule was here way before everyone joined except Craig and I  in 2007

Hell the rule is so old that a few of those members are watching the games in BC Heaven now including the original member who came up with all the Rules and they were all written out by another old geezer who has been gone for years too.

Oh and I forgot to add that Rule changes are always made before the season starts by a Vote......so once again......that would have to be before the 25th Annual......where in a dream world we will get back up to 20 members again like it used to be not that long ago.

BTW I picked that early game myself on Friday and will take what ever the final score turns out to be
Ok it is 4:45am here so since Seattle sucks and don't show a morning game....... unripebooya
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Post  CrystalBalls 10/8/2023, 6:22 am

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BUF OV 48
DET-8-
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Post  Sonny7000 10/8/2023, 6:27 am

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TEN +1
MIA -9.5

Parlay:
TEN +1
MIA -9.5
BAL/PIT UNDER 40.5
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Post  mmrozik7 10/8/2023, 7:04 am

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Ravens -4

Texans +2.5
Lions -8.5
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Post  =SA= 10/8/2023, 7:38 am

S I if you don't pick the early morning game on Sunday you have until noon to pick your parlay?
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Post  =SA= 10/8/2023, 7:42 am

You could simplify everything by simply saying you can pick any game or any parlay as long as all picks are in before any of the games are played. That woukd ve so easy and you could remove paragraphs and paragraphs of rules
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Post  =SA= 10/8/2023, 7:51 am

IN SHORT THE ONLY PICKS THAT SHOULD BE ILLEGAL ARE PICKS PLACED AFTER A GAME STARTS ..
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Post  CrystalBalls 10/8/2023, 10:09 am

=SA= wrote:IN SHORT THE ONLY PICKS THAT SHOULD BE ILLEGAL ARE PICKS PLACED AFTER A GAME STARTS ..
Geez...I totally agree with this simplified rule
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Post  Magic 10/8/2023, 11:29 am

CrystalBalls wrote:
=SA= wrote:IN SHORT THE ONLY PICKS THAT SHOULD BE ILLEGAL ARE PICKS PLACED AFTER A GAME STARTS ..
Geez...I totally agree with this simplified rule

OK Rule is passed........and yeah it is simplified if all you have to do is your picks and I get to do all the rest (including checking the starting time for every game picked along with all the rest)
So I sure hope there won't be anymore bitching this season.
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