Chamber of Commerce

While reading this article, remember what I said about what's going to happen in just over 12 years.

http://www.gopusa.com/news/2013/06/20/chamber-of-commerce-sounds-the-alarm-over-ballooning-entitlement-spending/?subscriber=1


And Obamacare is the key bullet-to-the-head.

http://watchdog.org/83344/a-democrat-a-union-and-myriad-businesses-see-chaos-in-obamacare/



People will get what they voted for.....what they deserved.

Medicare will be solvent until 2026

Uhhhhh, oh....uhmmmmmm..........I'm sorry

People will get what they voted for.....what they deserved. wrote:

Just like we got what we DESERVED from 2000 to 2008?

Yea we deserved that

Well, it's the overall system that's in trouble....that's what's breaking down. It doesn't matter if it's repub, dem or whatever. We will go back to a limited government situation that was intended from the get-go of this country.

We'll go back to our "default" monetary and government system. No more of this crazy big government that can't be sustained...it's waaaay to big and waaaay to corrupt.

mighty_colts wrote:Well, it's the overall system that's in trouble....that's what's breaking down. It doesn't matter if it's repub, dem or whatever. We will go back to a limited government situation that was intended from the get-go of this country.

We'll go back to our "default" monetary and government system. No more of this crazy big government that can't be sustained...it's waaaay to big and waaaay to corrupt.

Never gonna happen, Mighty. The 47% that Romney talked about won't let those gubment bennies get away. Country's going down the crapper and there's no plumber nearby.

No, no, Blue.


You're missing my point.


What I'm saying is..........their entire system is dying, and we will, by default, return to our roots

















































Because we will FIGHT

Well everything went great for me in the GWB years and that includes my medical system but now I am getting crap from this Opuppet system he want to start and is already messing with everything so he can give all those illegals free money.

(maybe GWB just did that for my vote )

After years of just going to the pharmacy and picking my stuff up I started getting BS the last couple years and today was another one on this "new deal"

I had to go to the docs office and wait for a signed paper to take to the pharmacy and then wait for a half hour there for them to fill that one bottle and they said in the future it could take longer so since I rather not sit in a store full of germs I will have to make this 40 mile round trip and sit in my car waiting for them to have mine ready.

Before this the nurse called the pharmacy and that day I drove in and it was waiting for me so I was in and out of there in 60 seconds.

All the medical members and pharmacy's are all having to deal with a long list of BS and the physicians are not happy about how they now have to do their job for far less than they used to make since they have to take all these non-tax payers and free money from the gov illegals and millions of others that get free everything and never paid a penny or earned a penny.

And then these loons also came up with the stupid idea of changing over from  the power company we had here for over 95 years to PUD (public utilities district)

So now the light bill is mysteriously higher even this time of year than ever before.

And all the other bs the local libs have done here

I can't imagine being in the insurance biz to pay out more than you are payed.


All they need to do now is make the value of the dollar shrink to 50 cents and 1930 will return.

There are 2 sides to every coin, I told you my sons situation, well Barry has come through for him, he got to see an orthopedic specialist, they put him through the spine shots which gave him no relief. So now hes already been approved for a July 16th back surgery.

And as far as the GWB years, FUCK HIM we lost over 27,000 dollars in our 401k, my pension took a tremendous hit because the teamsters pension was heavily invested in the stock market and I sold a home which in 2006 was valued at over 409,000 for 279,000..All due to the Bush fallout..

So in my sons case, GO BARRY!!!

...and all this while school districts are cutting back non-contract workers' hours from full-time to max 28/week, because of Obamacare. But, I'm sure all will be OK, because now those that used to get to work full-time and eek out a living on their own will be able to rely on the govt. to pay them and provide healthcare.

We're headed to a time when Powerball will be a key component in most people's retirement planning...

Its a cop out, if I can find work at 52 years old with bennys, so can 99% of America

cravnravn wrote:Its a cop out, if I can find work at 52 years old with bennys, so can 99% of America

Not really, John. From what I've gathered, you have a (union) pension. Those are a thing of the past... you're looking to work until SS kicks-in. Could you support a family on what you're getting paid? These are 30-50 yo single mom's working for a school district whose insurance premiums have risen over 50% in the past year. Now they're losing full time employment and health insurance and their retirement.

Obamacare has its pluses... for illegals. For the rest of us... its a nightmare. (well, except in your son's case, apparently)

I agree that something has to be done. But the fact of the matter is that we continue to find things that were never known, expected, or intended in the plan. The negatives have far outweighed the positives. And we still haven't seen the plan go into affect yet...

cravnravn wrote:There are 2 sides to every coin, I told you my sons situation, well Barry has come through for him, he got to see an orthopedic specialist, they put him through the spine shots which gave him no relief. So now hes already been approved for a July 16th back surgery.

And as far as the GWB years, FUCK HIM we lost over 27,000 dollars in our 401k, my pension took a tremendous hit because the teamsters pension was heavily invested in the stock market and I sold a home which in 2006 was valued at over 409,000 for 279,000..All due to the Bush fallout..

So in my sons case, GO BARRY!!!

Hussein has nothing to do with what your son got from that orthopedic specialist.

Obamacare starts in January 2014 and what is going on now is just the doctors and hospitals preparing for this so they are ready to lose money next year.

AND the President has nothing to do with Wall Street investing.

BAD investment by the Teamsters is just that.....a bad investment.

Maybe they can dig up some gold or silver when they tell us where Jimmy Hoffa is

Maybe Hussein will pass a new law that says if you lose money playing all Street like it is Vegas that you get it all back from other taxpayers who never take the risk of investing in S&P,DOW,NAS

Funny how I have been hearing Libs say OhusseinCare has been healing them since 2009 when it still has not taken effect yet.

Reminds me of buying gold and silver just in case.......yet when you buy it they take paper money in exchange.

Fact is the value of both drop at the same time so I will just save the paper version since I have never been t a store that takes chunks of metal as a payment

ObamaCare is a scam and like I said before for decades anyone just had to walk into the emergency room and they were treated and got everything they need after that without paying a cent.

And now we can look forward to millions more illegals crossing the border since Opuppet says he will give them all of the taxes paid by the top 10%

Of course as I said before......I prepared starting in the 80's and don't really give a shit unless Barry tries to take my stuff away because if him or any of his buddies try that my pet Eagle will pay them a visit.

(gawd I hate these political discussions since they remind me of "sigh" and "yogasurfer" the out-of-the-closet Libs that made the espn NFL board a nambla board)

http://www.gopusa.com/commentary/2013/06/27/patton-america-has-ceased-to-be-great-or-good/?subscriber=1




Like I said back in late March:

Yep.

If society doesn't turn it around quickly, great Judgments are coming.


Actually, those Judgments have already begun on a nation that has willingly turned from God, and has become even WORSE than Sodom and Gomorrah ever were.

The Lord will NOT suffer the rotting effects of liberalism/progressivism to remain on this land.........especially THIS land. North America is a very special place.

https://bcforum.editboard.com/t3486-isiah#25638




This society is in a downward trend. It is increasingly voiding God, and embracing the World, Belial.

Great Judgements have already begun.

Those Judgements are going to increase in frequency and intensity.

This will NOT be tolerated in THIS land. The Lord will NOT tolerate it.

He will purge the wicked.


Just a little over 12 years for them.

Well I wish he would hurry up then Mighty_G'

A thousand years might be like a day but to me a day is like 12 hours

cravnravn wrote:Its a cop out, if I can find work at 52 years old with bennys, so can 99% of America

A fair number of the 47% have no interest in finding work. When their unemployment runs out they play the system and start drawing SS disability. if you're interested you might check to find out SSDI has increased to the point where today there are almost 7 people on disability for every 100 workers -- double what it was 20 years ago.

John Kerry...remember the Kerry/Edwards 2004 option that all the libs were hot to boot GWB out of the WH?  Well, we ultimately found out what a total sleazebag Edwards was.  Now, we see how Kerry slipped one over on his Senate buddies while still Mass. Senator and helping to add items to Obamacare (you know, some of those 2300 pages none of the Democratic Senators bothered to read).

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323393804578557802237872788.html

BlueShoes1 wrote:John Kerry...remember the Kerry/Edwards 2004 option that all the libs were hot to boot GWB out of the WH?  Well, we ultimately found out what a total sleazebag Edwards was.  Now, we see how Kerry slipped one over on his Senate buddies while still Mass. Senator and helping to add items to Obamacare (you know, some of those 2300 pages none of the Democratic Senators bothered to read).

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323393804578557802237872788.html

You have the nerve to call Edwards a sleeze bag, after what Bush did to us? Edwards fucking some chick is peanuts as to the ass reaming Bush did to us all. And now hes sitting in his compound on a couple of Cracker Barrel Rockers with that shit eating grin, and rat bastard looking eyes, laughing at the American People, as his bank accounts get fatter and fatter

AND the President has nothing to do with Wall Street investing. BAD investment by the Teamsters is just that.....a bad investment. wrote:

No, you are wrong..Every move the President makes effects the stock market, and that just didnt start with Barry & that asswipe George, it goes way before those two.

And I disagree with Barry not having any influence on what happened with my son.

1. We are married, hes not from a broken home.
2. Hes white.
3. We didnt need a lawyer, he filled out the necessary paper work, had an interview, and 3 months later, he was approved.

ColtsKurt wrote:

cravnravn wrote:Its a cop out, if I can find work at 52 years old with bennys, so can 99% of America

Not really, John.  From what I've gathered, you have a (union) pension.  Those are a thing of the past... you're looking to work until SS kicks-in.  Could you support a family on what you're getting paid?  These are 30-50 yo single mom's working for a school district whose insurance premiums have risen over 50% in the past year.  Now they're losing full time employment and health insurance and their retirement.

Obamacare has its pluses... for illegals.  For the rest of us... its a nightmare. (well, except in your son's case, apparently)

I agree that something has to be done.  But the fact of the matter is that we continue to find things that were never known, expected, or intended in the plan.  The negatives have far outweighed the positives.  And we still haven't seen the plan go into affect yet...  

We could survive if we were hermits, the pension covers mrtg, ins, taxes and electric bill.

And as far as the Son goes, Im pretty sure he has learned a couple of valuable lessons from this, first we told him if you not in school, you are dropped from the health insurance, must be in school and they will cover you to age 26. Secondly when he moved north we told him to make sure he took a job with health bennys, he did not.