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Post  BlueShoes1 on 9/9/2011, 8:53 am

We used to have a way to get to the official BC rules but they are no longer available.  I decided to put the following together based on the past set of rules.  Hopefully Mighty can pin this thread so it's always at the start of this forum for everyone's reference.  If you have any questions or need clarification on any of the rules, reply to this thread appropriately.

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The Cadre

The Bookie Challenge was originally co-founded during the spring of 2000 by Marvelous Miguel Antonio and Mighty_Colts. After the success of its inaugural campaign, the Bookie Challenge incorporated a monetary pool and appointed Magic as the treasurer. Marvelous Miguel Antonio was, for a time, considered to be the CEO of the Bookie Challenge competition and was responsible for the official rules, weekly reviews, and point standings. That all ended some time around the end of the 2005 season when Miguel went off the deep end and vacated the room. At that time, Magic, Mighty and BlueShoes took responsibility for managing the contest. Magic is the treasurer and he also posts the weekly point spread lines. Blue posts the weekly picks by all players and tracks weekly results and challenge standings. Mighty_Colts deals with personnel issues. For example, Mighty_Colts has the final say so on who is allowed into the competition and also has the power to ban any member's participation. Also, as the Bookie Challenge's Treasurer, Magic is responsible for receiving and mailing all monies sent to him by chip participants.

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The Chips

The Bookie Challenge established a monetary pool before the start of the 2nd annual competition and appointed Magic as its Treasurer. All chips are mailed to the Bookie Challenge Treasurer at the start of the season and then winnings are mailed out by him to the two qualifying winners immediately after the NFL Super Bowl.

Chip participation is voluntary for ONLY the veterans to participate in future Bookie Challenge competitions. However, only those veteran participants who forward Chips at the start of the regular season will be eligible to win a share of the Bookie Challenge chip pot.

ALL ROOKIES MUST BE CHIP PARTICIPANTS IN THEIR INITIAL YEAR OF COMPETITION.

The fee for Chip participants is $30 and it is due before the start of the 3rd week of the NFL regular season -- NO EXCEPTIONS!!! All Chips received and postmarked after the 3rd Sunday of the NFL regular season will be sent back by the Bookie Challenge Treasurer (Magic -- The Quantum Treasurer).

Chip-paying participants who finish with the highest total points in the final Bookie Challenge Playoff point standings will share the Chip Pot (total monetary pool). The top chip-paying point winner will win 70% of the total Chip Pot and the 2nd place chip-paying participant will win the remaining 30%.

In case of any ties among the Chip participants, the Bookie Challenge Championship Tiebreakers will be implemented to determine the Chip payouts. Chips will be mailed out to the Chip winners within one week from the conclusion of the NFL Super Bowl. All Chip participants should mail proceeds to the Bookie Challenge Treasurer. The Treasurer's address may be obtained by sending a request to milliondollarbill@hotmail.com.

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The Pointspread

The pointspreads will be posted in a topic thread titled "Week n Lines" in the forum titled "THE SPREAD SHEET" on the Bookie Challenge message board no later than Wednesday of each week during the NFL season. The post identifies the betting line for each game that week and this betting line is to be used by the participants for their two weekly best bet selections and for their 3-team combination (3-team parlay).

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Regular Season Scoring

On a weekly basis during the NFL regular season each participant is required to select two best bets and a 3-team combination (3 team parlay).

ONE POINT is awarded for each winning best bet selection. Any ties to the pointspread off the straight line will result in a "no bet" and will count as a tie on a participant's best bet record (won-loss-tie).

THREE POINTS are awarded for a participant's winning 3-team parlay. All three teams on the parlay combination must win against the pointspread. A tie to the spread for any of the three games chosen on a 3-team parlay will result in the loss of the entire parlay selection.

A total of FIVE POINTS (a "Perfecta") can be achieved if both best bets cover and if all parlay teams also all cover and at least one of the parlay teams is also a best bet team.

A total of SEVEN POINTS (a "True Perfecta") can be achieved if five DIFFERENT teams are picked between the two best bets and the 3-team parlay and ALL FIVE teams cover.

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Weekly Results and Point Standings

During the course of the entire NFL season, weekly results and point standings will be posted in THE SPREAD SHEET forum on the Bookie Challenge message board. Forum topic threads will be named "Week n - Results and Standings".

The weekly point standings will show each participant's overall ranking by points and will also reflect each individual member's straight bet and parlay records. For the first seven weeks of the NFL regular season all participants will be in one single point standings group. After the conclusion of the 7th week, all participants will be seeded into five separate divisions and, for the remainder of the NFL regular season, the point standings will then reflect each participant's point ranking within their respective divisions.

At the start of the Bookie Challenge playoffs the divisions are abandoned and all the participants will be ranked back into a single group for the remainder of the contest.

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Opening Week Super Bowl Picks

By the kick off of the first game of the season (normally a Thursday night game) all participants will be required to post their Super Bowl predictions. Each participant will select the two teams they believe will be in the Super Bowl as well as the Super Bowl winner. At the conclusion of the AFC/NFC championship games TWO bonus points will be awarded to those participants who correctly picked BOTH Super Bowl teams. At the conclusion of the Super Bowl, THREE bonus points will be awarded to those participants who correctly picked the Super Bowl winner. Players who fail to submit Super Bowl teams/winner predictions prior to the kick off of the first season game will be ineligible for these bonus points.

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Thanksgiving Day Special

Besides posting regular weekly picks for the Sunday of Thanksgiving weekend, each participant will be required to submit picks for the three Thanksgiving Day games.

The Thanksgiving Day Special will require all participants to straight bet all three games and select a parlay consisting of two bets against the spread along with one Over/Under bet. As usual, ONE POINT will be awarded for each winning best bet off the straight line (for a possible 3 points). THREE POINTS will be awarded for a winning Parlay. So, it's possible to earn a total of SIX POINTS for the Thanksgiving Day games.

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Divisional Seedings

A single point standings containing the point totals and rankings of all the Bookie Challenge participants will be utilized from the first week through the seventh week of the NFL regular season. AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE SEVENTH WEEK, all participants will be seeded into five separate divisions: the ARK, BELDAR, FRESH, LACEY, and TESLA divisions. The ARK division is named in honor of Arkman, a long-term player, holder of several records and a multi-year champion. The BELDAR division is named in memory of Beldar, a long-term player who, unfortunately, departed this earth prior to the 2010 season. The FRESH division is named in honor of Might Colts, one of the originators of the Bookie Challenge effort. The LACEY division is named in memory of Mighty_Colts' best friend and pal dog, Lacey Jane. Finally, the TESLA division is named in respect for Magic the "quantum treasurer" and his electrifying personality.

With a few exceptions (Arkman will always be seeded in the ARK division, Mighty will be seeded in FRESH, Magic will be seeded in TESLA, BlueShoes will be seeded in the LACEY division), participants will be seeded based upon their overall point totals so as to most fairly balance divisions. For example, in one of the five divisions, the top seed (best overall point's total) will draw the lowest seed (worst overall point's total). In the next division, the second seed (2nd best overall point's total) will then be paired off with the second worst seed (2nd to last overall point's total). The process continues in the same manner until every participant is seeded into the five division. In situations where participants are tied in overall points and have identical best bet records, the Bookie Challenge Cadre reserves the right to make the final placement of those participants into a division.

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Regular Season Tiebreakers

The status in which a participant enters the Bookie Challenge Playoffs is determined by their regular season ranking within their respective division. Listed below are the official regular season tiebreakers for determining Divisional Championships and WILD CARD berths in case of any ties in total points.

- Most overall best bet wins
- Best winning percentage (minimum 13 weeks of participation)
- Most PERFECTA weekends
- Least GOOSE EGG weekends

A PERFECTA is accomplished when, on any given weekend of the regular season, a participant wins both best bets and wins his/her 3-Team Parlay.

A GOOSE EGG is accomplished when, on any given weekend of the regular season, a participant loses both best bets and LOSES EVERY GAME of his/her 3-Team Parlay. Keep in mind, a tie to the pointspread on a parlay game is considered as a loss.

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The Playoffs

The status in which all participants enter the Bookie Challenge Playoffs will be determined at the end of the regular season on the basis of their final point totals and rankings within the five Bookie Challenge divisions. A participant's final status will fall under one of two categories: Divisional Champion (1st place finisher in each division) receives TWO bonus points to start the playoffs and two Wild Card finishers (the next two highest point totals from the remainder of the field across all divisions) who each receive ONE bonus point to start the playoffs. All other participants will enter the playoffs with ZERO POINTS.

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Playoff Scoring

NFL WILD CARD ROUND (1st Round - 4 games - possible 5 points total)
- Pick a best bet winner for each game - 1 point per best bet for a total possible 4 points
- Pick any three of the teams (all must cover) - total of 1 point for the parlay

NFL DIVISIONAL ROUND (2nd Round - 4 games - possible 5 points total)
- Pick a best bet winner for each game - 1 point per best bet for a total possible 4 points
- Pick any three of the teams (all must cover) - total of 1 point for the parlay

NFL CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP (3rd Round - 2 games - possible 3 points total)
- Pick a best bet winner for each game - 1 point per best bet for a total possible 2 points
- Pick both winners (all must cover) and an Over/Under - total of 1 point for the parlay

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The Super Bowl

The Bookie Challenge's arduous season culminates with pro football's grand finale, the NFL Super Bowl. Players will enter the Super Bowl holding their accumulated points from the three playoff weeks. Points are awarded in the Super Bowl for several proposition bets as outlined in the following table. At the conclusion of the Super Bowl, the Bookie Challenge Championship two winning Chip participants will be recognized and awarded their chips.

Super Bowl Scoring (All Participants - 24 possible points)
1 pt - Pointspread winner
1½ pts - Over/Under winner
3 pts - Straight-up winner
1 pt - Half-Time point differential (+/- 2 pts)
2 pts - Final point differential (+/- 1 pts)
1 pt - Half-Time total points (+/- 5 pts)
2 pts - Final total points (+/- 3 pts)
½ pt - Pick the team with the higher time of possession
½ pt - Pick the first team to score
½ pt - Pick the last team to score
½ pt - Pick the first team to punt
½ pt - Pick the team with the most first downs
½ pt - Pick the team with the most third down conversions
½ pt - Pick the team with the highest number of rushing yards
½ pt - Pick the team with the longest pass completion
½ pt - Pick the team to kick the first field goal
½ pt - Pick the team to kick the second field goal
½ pt - Pick the coin toss result (Heads or Tails)
2 pts - Super Bowl MVP
5 pts - Overtime coin toss result (Heads or Tails)

Bookie Challenge Championship Tiebreakers

-Participant with highest point total from regular season
- Overall best bet winners (regular season and playoffs combined)
- Best winning percentage (regular season and playoffs combined). Note: Requires a minimum of 13 weeks of regular season participation and all 4 rounds of playoff participation to qualify for the 3rd tiebreaker.
- Most parlay wins (regular season and playoffs combined)
- Fewest GOOSE EGGS (regular season and playoffs combined)

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Posting Guidelines

Each GameDay is separate and individual, whether that be Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday or Monday games. Here's an example of the options available to you:

You decide to make a Thursday game a Best Bet. If you want to include this game in your Parlay, then you must post your ENTIRE Parlay before the Thursday posting deadline, otherwise your Parlay is void, invalid, null, ineffective, nonviable, useless, worthless, and nugatory.  

Let's assume you only want the Thursday game as a Best Bet, not a Parlay. Now let's assume there's a Saturday game scheduled and you want to make that your second Best Bet, but you don't want that to be in your Parlay. Then, on Sunday, you post your 3 team Parlay before the Posting Deadline for that day.

Here's another example of options available:

You don't want the Thursday game but play the Saturday game as a Best Bet. Then you forget to post your remaining Best Bet and 3 team Parlay on Sunday. Since each GameDay is separate and individual, you can make your second Best Bet on Monday, giving you an opportunity to score two points on your two Best Bets for that week, even though you lost a chance at a 3 point Parlay.

When you post your Parlay, it must be COMPLETE. Any Parlay that is less than 3 teams is void and must be corrected before the Posting Deadline.

To summarize:

1) You can post your entire bookie card all at once if you choose.
2) You can post your Best Bets on different days if you choose, each GameDay is separate and individual. You can make a Best Bet on Thursday, your Parlay on Sunday, and your second Best Bet on Monday.
3) You cannot post an incomplete Parlay. If you don't correct it before the Posting Deadline, then your Parlay is void for that week. For example; if you post your Parlay on Sunday and it's incomplete, you must correct it before the Posting Deadline for Sunday, which is of course the kickoff of the first game played that day. If the first game is scheduled for 10am Pacific, then the Posting Deadline is 9:59am Pacific.

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Miscellaneous Guidelines

All participants should attempt to refrain from making adjustments to their posted picks after they have been initially posted. Adjustments will be allowed in certain circumstances where a poster has made an obvious error. For example, posting a straight line game on a parlay combination when there is not a parlay line available for that particular game.
All participants should attempt to post their selections on the same thread the Bookie Challenge Line was initially released on.  That is, the entry is a "Reply" to the weekly line thread.

In any situation where a participant has been deemed to be in violation of the posting guidelines, the Bookie Challenge Cadre (mighty_colts, and/or Magic) will enforce a final ruling.

Should any participant have trouble posting their picks before the posting deadline (for example, the Bookie Challenge server is down) the participant can E-Mail their selections to any of the Bookie Challenge Cadre at their respective E-Mail addresses listed below. However, any E-Mail received by the Cardre that contains selections are still subject to the conditions and time constraints as described in the Bookie Challenge posting guidelines.

- milliondollarbill@hotmail.com (Magic)
- BlueShoes1@comcast.net (Blue)

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The Hedge Rule (Week 17)

In order to discourage a participant from hedging bets in an effort to lock up a favorable playoff position (Divisional Championship), the Bookie Challenge will implement the "Hedge Rule" on the FINAL WEEKEND OF THE REGULAR SEASON ONLY.

On the final weekend of the regular season, any participant holding the following status: divisional or "at large" wild card, and who has a five point or less lead over their nearest competitor(s) for those playoff berths, cannot select duplicate best bet picks from a trailing participant who has already posted their selections. In addition, a divisional leader or an "at large" wild card cannot duplicate an entire 3-Team Parlay combination posted by any participant who trails them by seven points or less.

Of course, the Hedge Rule applies to a divisional leader or an "at large" wild card only if the trailing participant has posted his/her selections first. However, if a divisional leader or an "at large" wild card posts their selections first, the Hedge Rule does not apply should any best bet picks or entire parlays eventually result in duplicated picks from a participant trailing them by seven points or less.

Any participant found to be in violation of the Hedge Rule will have any duplicated best bet(s) or duplicate 3-Team Parlay voided and counted as a loss.


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Post  ColtsKurt on 9/9/2011, 10:03 am

Wow... you are the man, Norm!

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Post  Magic on 9/9/2011, 12:21 pm

pinned....in a sticky sort of way hey_mon 

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Post  Administrator on 9/2/2013, 10:27 am

Ok, Blue, here are the only changes we need to make. Basically, we're going back to the original idea regarding how and when we can pick teams and post picks:
 
 
Posting Guidelines
 
Each GameDay is separate and individual, whether that be Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday or Monday games. Here's an example of the options available to you:
 
You decide to make a Thursday game a Best Bet. If you want to include this game in your Parlay, then you must post your ENTIRE Parlay before the Thursday posting deadline, otherwise your Parlay is void.
Let's assume you only want the Thursday game as a Best Bet, not a Parlay. Now let's assume there's a Saturday game scheduled and you want to make that your second Best Bet, but you don't want that to be in your Parlay. Then, on Sunday, you post your 3 team Parlay before the Posting Deadline for that day.
 
Here's another example of options available:
 
You don't want the Thursday game but play the Saturday game as a Best Bet. Then you forget to post your remaining Best Bet and 3 team Parlay on Sunday. Since each GameDay is separate and individual, you can make your second Best Bet on Monday, giving you an opportunity to score two points on your two Best Bets for that week, even though you lost a chance at a 3 point Parlay.
 
When you post your Parlay, it must be COMPLETE. Any Parlay that is less than 3 teams is void and must be corrected before the Posting Deadline.
 
To summarize:
 
1) You can post your entire bookie card all at once if you choose.
2) You can post your Best Bets on different days if you choose, each GameDay is separate and individual. You can make a Best Bet on Thursday, your Parlay on Sunday, and your second Best Bet on Monday.
3) You cannot post an incomplete Parlay. If you don't correct it before the Posting Deadline, then your Parlay is void for that week. For example; if you post your Parlay on Sunday and it's incomplete, you must correct it before the Posting Deadline for Sunday, which is of course the kickoff of the first game played that day. If the first game is scheduled for 10am Pacific, then the Posting Deadline is 9:59am Pacific.
 
 
Playing by these simple rules gives each player more options to customize their strategy.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Blue, you can post those changes in your own words if you want, but the concept is pretty simple and straight forward.

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Post  Magic on 9/3/2013, 3:21 am


lol  I thought all these clowns understood this already.....well except the rookies lol 

Maybe I should go bug Golden_Mole on his lostinspacebook again wink 



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Post  Magic on 9/19/2013, 3:05 pm

http://tinyurl.com/Unions-go-Anti-ObamaCare

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Post  BlueShoes1 on 9/20/2013, 5:57 am

The Obamacare boondoggle was rammed thru a Democratic Congress with NOT ONE Republican senator or representative voting for it. So what makes anyone think a Republican would suddenly support it??

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Post  Magic on 9/30/2013, 4:42 pm

Jerry Falwell has nothing to do with being a conservative.

Why does he even get mentioned or do you think he is on FNC too?

Religion and politics are separated and have been since day one.

BUT this country began as a Judeo-Christian country and now we let it be taken over by mosques in every city and town like Great Britain did.

I know the enemy of this country when I see it and I wouldn't be allowing them to slowly but surely take it over and if you don't see that then you aren't looking.

Illegals do not belong here and using that excuse that they will do the work that we will not do is BS and it is that way because the youngsters these days think money falls out of the sky and they only have to stand there and catch it.

Have I EVER told you to change your religious beliefs?

You have made it plain what it is and I never said you need to change.

Btw I never throw "crap on the wall"......THAT would be wasting my time.

And I am a computer programmer so I know what ".org" actually means and that is "non-profit organizations" which doesn't mean it is a "fact" and I never posted a .com link btw and used .gov


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Post  Administrator on 9/30/2013, 4:46 pm

Dude, you need to change your Format.
 
 
 
You are hard to follow with your style of text.
 
 
I suggest you break it up into short paragraghs.
 
Highlight each point in short, to-the-point paragraphs.
 
 
Rambling on forever in eternal paragraphs, with no grammical notations to break you thoughts....you lose your audience.

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Post  Administrator on 10/3/2013, 2:15 pm

Look at the polls, the majority of voters are against Obamacare, including many who originally voted for it.


Now that they're seeing the consequences of it.....they're altering their vote.


Standing Firm until the next election is key. People are realizing their mistake. We must Hold the Fort until the upcoming mid-term.

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Post  BlueShoes1 on 10/3/2013, 2:22 pm

A pretty strong argument can be made that the Republicans in the house blew it big time. All the talk is about the shutdown and their part in that. Their actions have taken the spotlight off of the very shitty start to Obamacare exchanges. Republicans are shooting themselves in the foot and Barry, Nancy, and Harry are happy to let them do that.

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Post  Administrator on 10/3/2013, 2:45 pm

I disagree.
 
 
You're assuming most will blame everything on repubs.
 
 
Why?
 
 
The focus has NOT shifted from Obamacare's failure, and the failure of democrat policy.
 
 
Forget the immeditate mainstream headlines, and look at the Big Picture:
 
Not enough JOBS.
Disfunctional government.
Chaos, ineptitude.
 
 
The vote has to swing one way or the other, and it looks bad for the dems. People want JOBS and a sense of security. This will NEVER happen if dems have power. Big government equals......what we currently have.
 
 
There will NEVER be enough votes in this country to support total government control, ie Obamacare.
 
People will prosper or suffer based on their vote.
 
Defeating the USA and it's foundation is impossible.

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Post  Magic on 10/3/2013, 9:26 pm

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeffrey-smith/monsanto-forced-fox-tv-to_b_186428.html

One of many left-wing links and also some right-wing links to help those libs that need spell-check and some facts to back up the fairy tales.

Monsanto is not any part of Fox News and is not owned by Roger Ailes or Rupert Murdoch

AND WTVT is a Fox affiliate channel in Florida NOT the Fox News Channel

It would be like saying Seattle KCPQ TV is Fox News.

The affiliates have nothing to do with FNC not to mention Monsanto.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Akre

And might I add that the day after Christine Gregoire was elected her last time as Governor here she sent out mail to everyone on SSI to tell them they no longer get the dental coverage.

But then she got the legal marijuana vote to get elected back to back and now as she said "Today, I’m announcing my support for a law that gives same-sex couples in our state the right to receive a marriage license in Washington – the same right given heterosexual couples."

It is time, it is the right thing to do, and I will introduce a bill to do it.”

She said this was her greatest achievement as Governor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Gregoire

I'm sure the libs will ask Jon Stewart if that is true or not or maybe say Bush did it.

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Post  BlueShoes1 on 10/4/2013, 7:43 am

Yes, Seabird, your party is in control and will likely have that at least for the next 11 years (with the last 8 with Hillary as President and Bubba as first husband).  Guaranteed.  Feel good about that.  But as the debt continues to increase at the rate of a trillion or so a year just to provide for your never-ending entitlement state sooner or later the shit's gonna hit the proverbial fan and you, yes you, will be part of the generation to have to pay for it.  Good luck with that.

Day 4 of Obamacare sign-up.  Piece of crap software for a piece of crap legislation.


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Post  BlueShoes1 on 10/4/2013, 7:53 am

Gotta have his remarks or the man is clueless without his people..."People! People!"


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Post  BlueShoes1 on 10/4/2013, 8:59 am

Don't follow your logic, Seabird. All I'm saying is that you go ahead and enjoy your democratic, liberal reign of control and be prepared to pay the consequences down the road. I'm not likely gonna be here to see that.

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New Healthcare.gov main page

Post  BlueShoes1 on 10/4/2013, 9:03 am

Spent about 15 minutes on this.  Do you think HHS will accept this as their new Healthcare.gov main page?


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Post  BlueShoes1 on 10/4/2013, 10:30 am

ColtsKurt wrote:Unfortunately, one doesn't know WHO to listen-to and believe.  All in Washington are self serving and playing the game of politics.  With our money, lives, and future.

The best comment I've heard yet about all this is...

Anything Congress passes applies to ALL. No exceptions.  What's good for the goose, is good for the gander.  THATS the first step...
Dream on, Kurt. Not gonna happen as long as there are lawyers, lobbyists, and PACs in Washington.

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Post  BlueShoes1 on 10/4/2013, 11:55 am

Broken record, Seabird. Kurt said it very well earler.

couple of quick improvements: Portability across jobs and states, EVERYONE follows the same rules (no exceptions for federal workers, union members, etc.), eliminate the medical device tax. The web site is "down" because 3 1/2 years apparently wasn't enough time for the government to properly size the thing. They talked about 30 million people uninsured. Seems reasonable to expect they'd size the system to meet demand. Oh, and it's probably safe to assume that a LOT of folks are hitting the site because the're trying to find out how badly Obamacare's gonna hit them rather than being supporters of it.

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Post  Magic on 10/4/2013, 1:36 pm

seabird wrote:Okay first if my spelling is all you got you got nothing.  Monsanto was the topic of a news coverage where they lied and they went to court to defend their ablity to lie.  You really got to stop tthinking your giving me cvics classes because I think History class was my thing not yours.  Let me explain SSI it is a federal program so how Christine had anything to do with a federal program is a little out there.  point your hate in the right direction.  What happened to you was you were part of the Republican budget cuts federal dollars cut for a state program so why are you mad at the person who sent you the letter rater than the person who cut your bennies ?
       You do understand that someone getting their rights does not take your rights away.  The POT bill let's see jail are full of pot smokers at a big cost to tax payers.  I think maybe it's better to set them free and jail the real criminals.
            You bitch about the federal government but cash the check.  You live on programs that were created by Democrats then call us the problem.  You father's job was because of FDR FYI a Democrat. The whole power grid that keeps are power rates low is because of FDR.
           Now for that history lesson Harding Goolige Hoover = Great depression fixed by FDR  Reagan and Bush one Biggest dedit in the history of our country fixed by Bill Clinton "W" lied to go to war topped Reagan for biggest debit and caused the greatest crash since (say it with me now)  The Great Depression and as much as you hate it Obama has pulled us out.  It simple you don't have to agree but the facts are there Supply side has never worked.
          I'm really sorry your mis reading my posts I am not a crazy lib like you want to paint me.  My grandfather died in a labor strike my dad worked with Jerry Brown's dad to have safe work places and living wages.  I'm a shop steward for my union and we built this country.  So when you blindly blame me I take notice.


You went to Peninsula College many years after HS and using that to back you up and the left-wing BS is just that ....BS

Gregoire did that when OBAMA was President NOT GWB so once again you try to blame GWB

That was your history class?

We didn't just meet.

You using that Union line over and over is a joke and every time you say it you must forget what you said before.

FDR had NOTHING to do with Puget Sound Power and Light where my Dad worked.

It first started the power grid in Seattle in 1886 and  the region's first large hydroelectric plant in 1898 so FDR was 16 years old at the time.

His FIRST term in office started March 4, 1933 and the first massive hydropower plant, the Rock Island Dam opened in 1932

And the other Dam is called the Hoover Dam for a reason but just to make sure you know Hoover was the preceding President to FDR.

Beginning in the fall of 1937, industrial production fell by 33 percent, national income dropped by 12 percent, and industrial stock prices plummeted by 50 percent. Nearly 4 million people lost their jobs, and the total number of unemployed increased to 11.5 million........now who was President at the time?

He started the Rural Electrification Act Executive Order 7037 on May 11, 1935 (yeah I don't know wtf I am talking about right? )

AND it was proposed by Representative John E. Rankin and Senator George William Norris NOT by FDR and that is a bipartisan proposal and one is a Republican Senator from Nebraska and the other a Congressman from Mississippi  who supported racial segregation and, on the floor of the United States House of Representatives, voiced racist views on African Americans,Jews,and the Japanese,even accusing Albert Einstein of being a communist agitator.

Next......I was denied by clowns at the Washington State Department of Labor and Industries by a bunch of crooks who told me to go back to work and when I injured my back for the second time on the job they just told me that it was a preexisting injury so back to work I went again at another high-tech job where I didn't get payed very much and after that I started my own company and that was the only time I made money with the electrical engineering and never got a Union job for the power company.

You on the other hand got your only Union job at a small store in Port Angeles and you haven't been working there all your life and never had anything to do with the Unions until then and saying that your Dad or his Dad did means nothing.

Being the "shop steward" at Swains didn't have anything to do with building this country or that store in fact.

http://www.swainsinc.com/store/home.html (the other store in Port Townsend closed down and I have inside info on that one just like I did with the former Union Boss Dave Beck and Beck Jr and Hoffa Jr and his Dad

It would be like me claiming to have worked for Puget Power just because I went to work with my Dad a few times when I was 10 years old.

AND btw the power price is more than ever before thanks to PSE being changed to PUD thanks to lib voters here and I know for a fact the price went up in PT Angeles too.

Remember the Clallam-Jefferson Community Action Council?


"My bennies" ????

The only thing I got was the hospital and doctors during the Bush Administration and then my dental plan erased with Gregoire and Obama in office so now I pay with cash........like I did yesterday at the Indian Dental office across the bay from their casino.

I should have got L&I from Washington State but they tend to only give that to liars and cheats.

I didn't get my high IQ rating by not knowing anything and in fact I had Eidetic memory starting as a child (you can look that up since you don't know what that means)

Btw once again.......Monsanto has nothing to do with Fox News which you keep claiming over and over and I backed it up with facts and you just repeated what you keep saying.

So I guess you do think KCPQ or WTVT in Florida IS Fox News and you think guys like Bill O'Reilly work there.

You don't seem to see the difference between commentary and news and of course you never even checked since they all say it over and over every day and just saying msnbc is all commentary means it is ok since you agree with all of it.

#1 for 13 straight years and he gives all his money from his website products and his books to charities by the millions.

Sure he makes more than those msnbc clowns but he also gives more to charity than they all do combined.

http://www.billoreilly.com/pg/jsp/billsfavorites/billscharities.jsp

I guess the world would be better is if we spent most of our lives with Rev. Wright or Al Sharpton

The letter was penned by James P. Hoffa, general president of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters; Joseph Hansen, international president of the United Food and Commercial Workers International Union; and Donald “D.” Taylor, president of UNITE-HERE, a union representing hotel, airport, food service, gaming, and textile workers.

“When you and the President sought our support for the Affordable Care Act,” they begin, “you pledged that if we liked the health plans we have now, we could keep them. Sadly, that promise is under threat…We have been strong supporters of the notion that all Americans should have access to quality, affordable health care. We have also been strong supporters of you. In campaign after campaign we have put boots on the ground, gone door-to-door to get out the vote, run phone banks and raised money to secure this vision. Now this vision has come back to haunt us.”


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Post  BlueShoes1 on 10/4/2013, 1:49 pm

OK, insurance plan owners.  Here's the list of available policy coverages for small business owners (Kurt, this may apply to your business) from the obamacare web site.  A very big scrollable table contains info for all states.  It's possible to filter the table so that you see only info for your state, county, etc.  Anyway, find your state and county and look for the coverage you want and see the estimate of the cost.  Compare that cost to what you pay today.  Good luck!

https://www.healthcare.gov/shop-health-plan-information/


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Post  Magic on 10/4/2013, 6:25 pm

I wish they would just let it fly so it gets to run the remainder of his term so he can add it to his imaginary accomplishments right up there with that Nobel Peace Prize.

You know how they all read those thousands of pages just ask Pelosi and Reid.


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Post  Magic on 10/4/2013, 6:51 pm


And one last thing on this topic.....I won't waste another second replying OR reading any BS pointed in my direction.

So you will just be talking to yourself.

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Post  cravnravn on 10/5/2013, 1:38 am

BlueShoes1 wrote:OK, insurance plan owners.  Here's the list of available policy coverages for small business owners (Kurt, this may apply to your business) from the obamacare web site.  A very big scrollable table contains info for all states.  It's possible to filter the table so that you see only info for your state, county, etc.  Anyway, find your state and county and look for the coverage you want and see the estimate of the cost.  Compare that cost to what you pay today.  Good luck!

https://www.healthcare.gov/shop-health-plan-information/
Just rec'd my letter from Penske Corp, effective Jan 1, my weekly rate went up 101%

Im still letting it all sink in, because along with the increase, they think they have even it out by waving any deductables. (i have 25.00 per visit now).

Also the annual deductible went from 500 per year per individual, down to 100 per year per individual. Then the 80/20 kicks in.

Im not happy about the 101% increase.

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Post  BlueShoes1 on 10/5/2013, 5:01 am

Two things John: On the med. insurance changes, closely check changes in your "network" as that's another common theme in Obamacare - restricting access. As to your park visit, it's a STATE park so I'd think you'll be fine. Have a great trip!

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